Well I think there are some people who actually carve full time, so they do that for a living. There are other artists, younger artists for instance, and are going to school and making carvings to have some spending money. But meanwhile, they're learning how to make carvings, and who knows, someday they may be fulltime artists. And there are others, who I'm thinking of at the moment is Pitseolak Niviasi. He's the master printer in the litho studios but he actually takes off the summer. He stops making prints maybe in May and then he's probably back at work now. So from May until October he actually lives a traditional life. He actually just acquired a new boat, so he goes hunting and fishing and whatever and actually takes his family out on the land. And when he's doing that he's also carving and the carving sustains his livelihood. I mean, he makes much more money carving but I think in the winter he likes to have a regular job where he goes there everyday, works from nine until five or whatever making prints. So he's been able to combine two styles of livelihood very successfully. So three types, two really. Actually, I even have children knocking on my door asking if I want to buy a little polar bear or something. You know, actually, I really enjoy children's carvings. They're very fresh in terms of image and whatever.